{"id":31071,"date":"2023-09-02T18:29:14","date_gmt":"2023-09-02T16:29:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/?p=31071"},"modified":"2023-09-03T06:05:48","modified_gmt":"2023-09-03T04:05:48","slug":"31071-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/31071-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Raimon Obiols: L\u2019apunt del dia\/215 (Marx, mort o  viu)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Marx mort<\/strong> <strong>o viu<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2 de setembre de 2023<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A l&#8217;inici del mon\u00f2leg teatral <a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marx_in_Soho\"><strong><em>Marx in Soho<\/em><\/strong><\/a><em>, <\/em>de l\u2019historiador <strong>Howard Zinn<\/strong>, el protagonista&nbsp; (<strong>Karl<\/strong> <strong>Marx<\/strong> en persona, rediviu) agraeix al p\u00fablic l&#8217;assist\u00e8ncia:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;<em>Gr\u00e0cies per venir. No us heu deixat conv\u00e8ncer per tots aquests&nbsp; idiotes que diuen: &#8220;<\/em><strong><em>Marx<\/em><\/strong><em> est\u00e0 mort!&#8221;\u2026 B\u00e9, ho estic&#8230; i no ho estic!&nbsp; Aix\u00f2 \u00e9s un mica de dial\u00e8ctica, per a vost\u00e8s\u00bb<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Marx<\/strong>, \u00e9s mort o viu? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019any <strong>1977<\/strong>, <strong>Bru Rovira<\/strong> i <strong>Montserrat Roig<\/strong> van tenir una llarga conversa amb el ge\u00f2graf <a href=\"https:\/\/ca.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pau_Vila_i_Dinar%C3%A8s\"><strong>Pau Vila<\/strong><\/a>, que aleshores tenia<strong> 96<\/strong> anys:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab \u2013 <em>Qu\u00e8 llegiu?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 <\/em><strong><em>Marx<\/em><\/strong><em>.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 <\/em><strong><em>Marx<\/em><\/strong><em>?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 S\u00ed. Encara hi s\u00f3c a temps!&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 No l&#8217;hav\u00edeu llegit fins ara?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 Fa anys ho havia intentat en una edici\u00f3 castellana feta a Caracas, per\u00f2 se&#8217;m va fer pesada. Ara el llegeixo en franc\u00e8s, en una edici\u00f3 molt acurada i acollidora. Vaig comen\u00e7ar la seva obra completa quan tenia <strong>90<\/strong> anys, i estic a punt d&#8217;acabar-la.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 Us interessa el que diu?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 S\u00ed. \u00c9s evident que t\u00e9 un enorme valor, encara que, com \u00e9s natural, hi ha una s\u00e8rie de coses que em semblen fora de temps<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 I no se us fa pesat?&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u2013 M\u00e9s aviat trobo que \u00e9s un bon exercici mental\u00bb<\/em> (<strong>1<\/strong>).&nbsp;<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>P. S.- <\/strong> La viquip\u00e8dia <a href=\"https:\/\/ca.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Howard_Zinn\">en catal\u00e0<\/a> diu que <strong>Howard<\/strong> <strong>Zinn<\/strong> era \u00ab<em>anarquista<\/em>\u00bb i en canvi la wikipedia <a href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Howard_Zinn\">en angl\u00e8s<\/a> el caracteritza com \u00ab<em>socialista<\/em>\u00bb (amb viquip\u00e8dia s\u2019ha d\u2019anar sempre amb compte). De fet, <strong>Zinn<\/strong> es definia com \u00ab<em>una mica anarquista, una mica socialista; potser<\/em> <em>socialista democr\u00e0tic\u00bb<\/em>. De <strong>Zinn<\/strong> \u00e9s una dita interessant:  \u00ab<em>Puc entendre el pessimisme, per\u00f2 no hi crec<\/em>. <em>No \u00e9s una q\u00fcesti\u00f3 de fe, sin\u00f3 d&#8217;evid\u00e8ncia hist\u00f2rica. No es tracta d\u2019una evidencia abrumadora, per\u00f2 \u00e9s  suficient per a l&#8217;esperan\u00e7a, perqu\u00e8 per a l&#8217;esperan\u00e7a no necessitem certeses sin\u00f3 possibilitat<\/em>s\u00bb. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>_______________<em>&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(1) <strong>Bru Rovira:<\/strong> <strong><em>Pau Vila: <\/em><\/strong><em>&#8220;He viscut!&#8221;. Biografia oral<\/em>, Edicions La Campana, Barcelona <strong>1989<\/strong>. Pr\u00f2leg de <strong>Montserrat Roig<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>_______________<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Marx in Soho <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/uRhDt_mrM50?si=akKp5be1beC6_OSU\">es pot veure&nbsp; aYoutube<\/a><\/em><\/strong><em>, amb subt\u00edtols en castell\u00e0.&nbsp;<\/em><br><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Marx mort o viu 2 de setembre de 2023 A l&#8217;inici del mon\u00f2leg teatral Marx in Soho, de l\u2019historiador Howard Zinn, el protagonista&nbsp; (Karl Marx en persona, rediviu) agraeix al p\u00fablic l&#8217;assist\u00e8ncia:&nbsp; &#8220;Gr\u00e0cies per venir. No us heu deixat conv\u00e8ncer per tots aquests&nbsp; idiotes que diuen: &#8220;Marx est\u00e0 mort!&#8221;\u2026 B\u00e9, ho estic&#8230; i no ho &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":31075,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,285],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31071","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-espaisocialista","category-lapunt-del-dia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31071","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31071"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31071\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31094,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31071\/revisions\/31094"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/31075"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31071"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31071"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.noucicle.org\/lhora\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31071"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}